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  • Jim
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    >>"...orthographic..."

    I had to look that word up, intense Andreas, seriously.

    More simply, yes, its misspelled.

    Although that price is good.
    And I have no problem with Hyperion using the sources it has to recompile OS 3.1.
    Unlike Cloanto's 'enhancements', this seems like a pretty basic straight forward product.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »19.10.16 - 19:39
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  • vox
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    Quote:

    Jim wrote:
    >>"...orthographic..."

    I had to look that word up, intense Andreas, seriously.

    More simply, yes, its misspelled.

    Although that price is good.
    And I have no problem with Hyperion using the sources it has to recompile OS 3.1.
    Unlike Cloanto's 'enhancements', this seems like a pretty basic straight forward product.


    As far as I do remember, license they won in the end of AmigaInc court was also for use and distribution of AmigaOS 3.x (ending with 3.1 as last CBM product). So its a bit expectable, to generate retro-revenue, plus no much sweat (in terms of real enhancements usable for real 68k or Vampre users).

    It generated either much anger (no need, anyone can use their CBM style KS and WB)or too high expectations (that they will develop OS 3.x further, beyond possibility of backporting Enhancer and PPaint and maybe some more AEON products).

    Knowing pace AmigaOS 4.x develops, even if it would be true, that would be ... slooow.

    And if I would go Vampire ways, a bit patched Real AmiKit and AROS 68k would be all I need.

    For OS 3.9 purists, there have been unofficial BoingBags 3&4 - similar to what AmiKit did - a AmiNet packages that extend OS 3.x functionality close to OS 4.x levels.
    http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/bbag4.htm
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  • »20.10.16 - 06:33
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    Jim wrote:

    Unlike Cloanto's 'enhancements', this seems like a pretty basic straight forward product.


    What an extremely strange thing to say. Your Hyperion enthusiasm aside, why are you saying this? Do you have any idea whatsoever what you are talking about?
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  • »20.10.16 - 09:46
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    For OS 3.9 purists, there have been unofficial BoingBags 3&4 - similar to what AmiKit did - a AmiNet packages that extend OS 3.x functionality close to OS 4.x levels.



    That link refers to an obsolete version. The current version is V1.26, available from http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/#others
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    Minuous wrote:
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    For OS 3.9 purists, there have been unofficial BoingBags 3&4 - similar to what AmiKit did - a AmiNet packages that extend OS 3.x functionality close to OS 4.x levels.



    That link refers to an obsolete version. The current version is V1.26, available from http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/#others



    Thanks, wasnt aware of that. However, there are many nice pages to read about "What makes essence of AmigaOS" on original site.
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  • »23.10.16 - 07:32
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    Has Cloanto officially taken exception to HYPErion's OS3.1 fork? It looks like this is being discussed as a matter of fact now.

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    That this turns out to be a "Hyperion vs. Cloanto" fight is just sad. It would make much more sense to keep development under a common umbrella.


    Have any new info Andreas?
  • »23.10.16 - 20:19
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    Bugfix update for Workbench 3.1 (40.43)

    Brussels, October 25, 2016

    Hyperion is pleased to announce the immediate availability of an update to the recently released Workbench 3.1 (40.43) to address a few reported issues.

    Registered customers can download the free update from the restricted download area on the Hyperion Entertainment website, new customers will automatically get the fixed version via our fulfillment partner avangate.

    Changes:

    FIXED: The Workbench disk image was not bootable
    FIXED: The installation script could wrongly copy the contents of the Install disk into FONTS:

    [ Edited by redrumloa 25.10.2016 - 14:05 ]
  • »25.10.16 - 14:04
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    redrumloa wrote:
    Changes:

    FIXED: The Workbench disk image was not bootable


    How incompetent can the guys at Hyperion be to not realize that the Workbench disks they are making aren't bootable?!?

    Quote:

    FIXED: The installation script could wrongly copy the contents of the Install disk into FONTS:


    "Could wrongly copy"? What does that mean? Sometimes it correctly installs the files and other times it copies them all to the "Fonts" directory/drawer?

    Hyperion is such an embarrassment and crippling boat anchor for the Amiga community. Unfortunately, Ben Hermans will probably never give up control of the AmigaOS ip, to allow any more competent person/company or the community itself, to push it forward more quickly and with better quality control.
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  • »25.10.16 - 16:23
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    amigadave wrote:
    Hyperion is such an embarrassment and crippling boat anchor for the Amiga community.


    Wait, are you plagiarizing me? I demand you pay royalties immediately! ;-)
  • »25.10.16 - 19:44
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    Quote:

    redrumloa wrote:
    Has Cloanto officially taken exception to HYPErion's OS3.1 fork? It looks like this is being discussed as a matter of fact now.

    Quote:

    That this turns out to be a "Hyperion vs. Cloanto" fight is just sad. It would make much more sense to keep development under a common umbrella.


    Have any new info Andreas?


    Hmm, maybe I'm wrong in this, but didn't that "purchase OS4.1 as digital download" link on Hyperion's website take you to Cloanto's webshop before, where you could buy OS4 for PowerUP/UAE PPC? It still takes you to their webshop, but I can't seem to find OS4 there? I think I recall seeing it there a couple of days ago though, when I was looking for Cloanto's Workbench package for Amigas, but maybe I'm hallucinating...? Or maybe it was never there, but somewhere else...? Anyone remembers...?
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  • »25.10.16 - 20:09
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    Hmm, maybe I'm wrong in this, but didn't that "purchase OS4.1 as digital download" link on Hyperion's website take you to Cloanto's webshop before, where you could buy OS4 for PowerUP/UAE PPC? It still takes you to their webshop, but I can't seem to find OS4 there? I think I recall seeing it there a couple of days ago though, when I was looking for Cloanto's Workbench package for Amigas, but maybe I'm hallucinating...? Or maybe it was never there, but somewhere else...? Anyone remembers...?


    No, I'm pretty sure it was there! Looks like things aren't friendly between the 2 companies after all, like some of the rabid apologists were insisting.

    HYPErion vs Cloanto lawsuit next?

    -Edit-
    Yup, it SURE WAS!!
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    Brussels, December 17, 2015

    Hyperion Entertainment CVBA is very happy to announce the immediate availability of AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition for Classic for purchase as digital download.

    In close cooperation with Cloanto Italia srl, well known for their Amiga Forever and C64 Forever lines of products, this is the first step and testbed for Hyperion Entertainment towards offering gradually its full line of products as digital downloads in addition to the traditional distribution of physical products through the existing dealer network.

    To offer the best possible shopping experience to our customers and following the experience of our partners, Avangate was chosen as fulfillment partner to take care of the whole purchase process in the most secure manner possible and allows to offer several local payment options to customers all over the world.

    Customers of the digital download version of AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition for Classic get an archive containing

    ISO9660 image of the installation media,
    ADF image of the bootfloppy disk,
    PDF of the DVD cover,
    PDF of the CD label,
    PDF of the booklet and
    the serial number in confirmation mail,

    which enables them to produce their own backup media including the official artwork*.

    After successful completion of the test phase, interested dealers will be welcome to become part of the affiliate network in order to offer the available digital downloads to their respective customers directly on their website.

    We all want to use this opportunity to wish you a very merry christmas and a happy new year 2016.

    * reduced quality suitable for home printing equipment


    Source: http://www.hyperion-entertainment.bi...gital-download


    [ Edited by redrumloa 25.10.2016 - 21:11 ]
  • »25.10.16 - 21:07
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  • rob
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    Don't worry guys, it's still available.

    https://secure.avangate.com/order/checkout.php?PRODS=4670512&QTY=1&CART=1&CARD=1&PAY_TYPE=PAYPAL
  • »25.10.16 - 22:32
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    rob wrote:
    Don't worry guys, it's still available.

    https://secure.avangate.com/order/checkout.php?PRODS=4670512&QTY=1&CART=1&CARD=1&PAY_TYPE=PAYPAL


    Apparently from Hyperion, not Cloanto.
  • »25.10.16 - 23:00
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  • rob
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    Quote:

    amigadave wrote:
    Quote:

    redrumloa wrote:
    Changes:

    FIXED: The Workbench disk image was not bootable


    How incompetent can the guys at Hyperion be to not realize that the Workbench disks they are making aren't bootable?!?

    Quote:

    FIXED: The installation script could wrongly copy the contents of the Install disk into FONTS:


    "Could wrongly copy"? What does that mean? Sometimes it correctly installs the files and other times it copies them all to the "Fonts" directory/drawer?

    Hyperion is such an embarrassment and crippling boat anchor for the Amiga community. Unfortunately, Ben Hermans will probably never give up control of the AmigaOS ip, to allow any more competent person/company or the community itself, to push it forward more quickly and with better quality control.


    Olaf Barthel has provided an explanation of what went wrong and gave some insight into the build process.

    "If there are similarities, I expect they resulted from changing what used to work back in 1994 and finding that subtle problems slipped through the testing process.

    In the case of this Workbench/Kickstart 3.1 update, the changes made were deliberately kept small so as to reduce the risk of breaking anything. That was the plan, but what caused the troubles was for one part the build process itself, and the subtleties of writing installation scripts.

    The build process cranks out ready-made Kickstart ROM images and a set of drawers whose contents correspond exactly to the Extras/Fonts/Install/Locale/Storage/Workbench disks. In order to create those disks, the re