Hi,

Were can I find MUI info? I like as much as possible about programming
with MUI. I want the whole nine yards.

Coder

http://www.sasg.com/

yes.. check mui autodocs and examples from MOS SDK.. and if it misses something check autodocs on http://www.sasg.com/.

I also suggest to download mui38dev.lha from aminet for checking the old examples (the PSI sample source can be very helpful, when u need an example how to proper define classes and how to work with methods and attributes).

else check aminet for sources of other MUI software (scout, yam, simplemail, etc.)

regards,
tokai

Hi cecillia,

That site looks horrible with Voyager. But I will try to look if I can
see something. I am looking for some simple tutorials that
describe how to do some simple things with MUI and how it all works.

Coder

Hi Tokai,

I will check mui38dev.lha also. I never used MUI before and I got some
work lined up and it was said the best thing to do for GUI stuff is
using MUI.

Coder

@coder:
yes it is... but don't make the mistake by looking to the wrong examples.. because there are 2 different ways to code mui apps... but only one is the right.

For a proper MUI application you have to encapsule parts into classes and you have to use methods and attributes for inner program communication (notification between objects etc.). DON'T use RETURN-IDs in the mainloop. This is ugly and does not work well in the end.

for learning look to the
class1.c, class2.c, class3.c and InputEvent.c examples in MOS SDK. And look to PSI.c for more advanced technics. You'll also find old-style examples but like i said: use classes, methods and attributes and DON'T use RETURNIDs in the main loop. That's all you should have take care for... the rest is in the examples or in the autodocs. You'll probably need some time until you get used to it, but then it's fun.

regards,
tokai

Hi Tokai,

I keep that in mind.

Coder

@tokai : thanks for your comments about MUI way of coding

Newbies MUI coders (frenchies) could visit http://www.guru-meditation.net and http://www.rusback.org who contains infos, french docs about coding on amiga, etc...

Any comment about Zune (MUI clone under Linux or Aros) ?

http://www.aros.org/documentation/developers/zune-application-development.php

Hi bigdan,

I am a newbie but not French. So?

Coder

@Coder

I have been in the same situation like you last fall, and getting past the simple
examples ain't easy. There was more than one occasion where I honestly
considered going back to gadtools + costum BOOPSI-classes, but after I finally
gathered some understanding, I would never go back.

O.k. some of my problems may have had something to do with the fact that I
allready had >300k sources completly unprepaired for MUI .....

And as Tokai wrote, useing RETURN_IDs may look convinient, but is a pain in
the end. So you will need atleast one costum class, where your apps "intellegence"
is gathered. This may be based on MUIC_Area, when it represents a part of the window,
or based on MUIC_Notify when it is just for receiving and sending commands.

If your program gets bigger, you might want to split of this into several classes.

@Kronos

I think it will take some time to get into it all. But it is in the
best interest to use MUI. Would be nice if there would be some
tutorials about MUI for people starting with it for the first time.

Coder

I would like to see a Rom Kernel Manual style of
documentation produced for MorphOS developers to
purchase in book form or read onscreen. It would
be nice to have a text covering MUI, AHI, CyberGraphics
and all other parts of the operating system. Something
like this would be especially useful for those not
familiar with Amiga programming and handy for reference.

Hello,

Complete tutorials for Zune is a must to be done. I wish to play with it but I can hardly found step by step tutorials...

Hope someone will make a nice tutorial.

Have a nice day.

Back to gcc and Zune.

Tcheko

Hi realstar,

I agree with you. The documentation part could do with some
improvements. Let's hope it will be done.

Coder

Hi,

you speak german ?

When yes, i search in my AmigaPlus archiv ,i have found in A+ 2/95 a Workshop for MUI i must search
this in 11/94 - 1/95 . I can when i have found this Scanning an send to you !

_________________________________________________
Google is my best English Translator .
Mfg AmiMann

Hi AmiMann,

I can read German but speaking might be a bit off.

Coder

Hi,
you can find a modern guide about Amiga and MUI programming on my site, however MUI part is in translating 'cause my lack of english by another user;-)
Stay tuned:

http://shinkuro.altervista.org/amiga/guida/index.htm

http://shinkuro.altervista.org/amiga/guida/english/index.htm

Nice work! But maybe the "MorphOS development is discontinuous" statement is a little bit unfortunate?

Hello,

i am also loocking for very simple example
for programming with mui. Somthing like
that: Opnemning a window, adding
a button, receiving an event from this button.

Most examples i found are to advanced
(too much informationen).

It's really important to have
a good documentation for the Mos sdk
(system, ahi , cgx, mui).

regards
eliot

Holy thread resurrection! :)

It is a good read...thanks for the work.

Sorry for offtopic. Hello, Kronos. What's new on Steam Draw? :)

Quote:

Uhm, good point, that part is old... I should fix it...I'll it when I can install MorphOS on IBook) ;-P

Has anyone else noticed that most/all of the links on this page seem dead:
http://www.sasg.com/mui/toolkits.html
Seems like a shame for all that useful information to be lost. Was the information ever backed up?

Anything you need to know about MUI programming is still preserved on #mui and #morphos at freenode Unfortunately these days almost nobody is developing native Amiga applications anymore...

@itix
I've been looking into starting programming with MUI, that's why this thread is interesting to me and why I asked my previous question. IRC chat is okay, but I'd prefer something more immediate. At the moment my focus is on AROS/Zune but if the MacMini port is released I may get into MorphOS/MUI4.