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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Posts: 124 from 2014/9/22
    MorphOSes and SSD harddrives? How well MorphOSes work with SSD. And im mean MorphOS1.4.5 and Current one which seems be MorphOS3.7.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 739 from 2006/5/27
    From: Germany
    I have a 60gb SSD in my PowerBook and it works just fine :)
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2732 from 2003/2/24
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    Vanhapolle wrote:
    MorphOSes and SSD harddrives? How well MorphOSes work with SSD. And im mean MorphOS1.4.5 and Current one which seems be MorphOS3.7.



    They are treated like normal HDD's and they work fine as such but the OS doesn't support SSD special functions i.e. trim, which could theoretically affect performance negatively from heavy usage over time. In practice I'd say that this is more of an issue on HDD-intensive OS's like Windows where the hard drive is used kind of constantly. This is usually not the case on MorphOS (or other Amigoid OS's). Many people are using SSD's with MorphOS, and I don't see any practical reason to why you shouldn't, as long as your HW can handle it...
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  • »02.10.14 - 12:36
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  • MorphOS Developer
    geit
    Posts: 1102 from 2004/9/23
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:

    They are treated like normal HDD's and they work fine as such but the OS doesn't support SSD special functions i.e. trim, which could theoretically affect performance negatively from heavy usage over time. In practice I'd say that this is more of an issue on HDD-intensive OS's like Windows where the hard drive is used kind of constantly. This is usually not the case on MorphOS (or other Amigoid OS's). Many people are using SSD's with MorphOS, and I don't see any practical reason to why you shouldn't, as long as your HW can handle it...


    There is no issue with the speed loss, as most SSDs are several times faster than the hardware (IDE/SATA) can handle in our old systems. It simply doesn´t matter if the SSD looses read/write speed from 550 to 400MB/s when the hardware only deals with e.g. 80MB/s.

    Geit
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2732 from 2003/2/24
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    geit wrote:
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:

    They are treated like normal HDD's and they work fine as such but the OS doesn't support SSD special functions i.e. trim, which could theoretically affect performance negatively from heavy usage over time. In practice I'd say that this is more of an issue on HDD-intensive OS's like Windows where the hard drive is used kind of constantly. This is usually not the case on MorphOS (or other Amigoid OS's). Many people are using SSD's with MorphOS, and I don't see any practical reason to why you shouldn't, as long as your HW can handle it...


    There is no issue with the speed loss, as most SSDs are several times faster than the hardware (IDE/SATA) can handle in our old systems. It simply doesn´t matter if the SSD looses read/write speed from 550 to 400MB/s when the hardware only deals with e.g. 80MB/s.

    Geit



    True, and campared to OS's like Windows there hardly is any work load on the HDD during "normal" usage anyway (relatively speaking of course), so for most people the biggest benefit is probably the elimination of some noise rather than a noticeable speed increase...
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
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    True, and campared to OS's like Windows there hardly is any work load on the HDD during "normal" usage anyway (relatively speaking of course), so for most people the biggest benefit is probably the elimination of some noise rather than a noticeable speed increase...


    I would say a lot faster loading of drawers with tons of files is another benifit.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Tcheko
    Posts: 544 from 2003/2/25
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    Harddrives hardly do 50 to 100 I/O per second (seek/read/write ops) when an ordinary SSD can do from 10K to 80K (yes 10000 to 80000) I/O per second. Add to that 'incredible' read/write speed (some SATA3 SSD can do 550MB/s read 510MB/s write for example).

    Hard drive will become the medium of choice for backup... like tapes did the job yesterday.

    My Powerbook will have an upgrade soon, replacing my aging 2"5 ATA drive by some mSATA + IDE2mSATA adapter.

    Can't wait ! :)



    [ Edited by Tcheko 03.10.2014 - 05:54 ]
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  • »03.10.14 - 04:54
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