Pegasos 2 - Mk.2
  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    sailor
    Posts: 441 from 2019/5/9
    From: Central Bohemi...
    I successfuly exchange 1 GHz CPU on my second Pegasos 2 to this one:
    MC7447B 1667 MHz ( from ebay / 10,- USD  ;-) )

    Just now it is overclocked to 1800 MHz and I start testing...
    Peg2-1800MHz.jpg

    And I have question:

    if CPU clocked to default 1667 MHz, SmartFirmware shows cpu0: PowerPC,7447A CPUClock 3428 Mhz
    if CPU clocked to 1800 MHz, SmartFirmware shows cpu0: PowerPC,7447A CPUClock 1799 Mhz
    Why Smart firmware ( and OS too ) shows double value for 1667 and are there way howto fix it?

    P.S. in meantime when I waiting for Mirari, I has to upgrade a little bit my pets.


    [ Edited by sailor 09.09.2025 - 16:15 ]
    AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
    AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, Sam460LE, AmigaOneX1000
    MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Sam460LE, Pegasos II, Powerbook G4, Mac Mini, iMac G5, Powermac G5 Quad
  • »09.09.25 - 15:14
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Sprocki
    Posts: 131 from 2005/2/23
    From: Berlin - Germany
    I would just be silent about the wrong display and show everybody "look, I have the fastest G4 in the world in a 3.4GHz Peg II!" :-)

    I have no idea how SmartFirmware calculates, though.

    Congrats on that catch, let us know if it runs stable in the long run. I wonder if it's worth the risk. Mine is still at 1.0GHz. It would hurt if I broke not just a 10 EUR CPU but maybe also the CPU module or even the mainboard.

    [ Edited by Sprocki 09.09.2025 - 17:32 ]
  • »09.09.25 - 16:30
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  • MorphOS Developer
    cyfm
    Posts: 564 from 2003/4/11
    From: Germany
    Quote:

    sailor schrieb:
    I successfuly exchange 1 GHz CPU on my second Pegasos 2 to this one:
    MC7447B 1667 MHz ( from ebay / 10,- USD  ;-) )

    And I have question:

    ...

    Why Smart firmware ( and OS too ) shows double value for 1667 and are there way howto fix it?

    [ Edited by sailor 09.09.2025 - 16:15 ]


    At least the OS part is easy to answer. MorphOS HAL just picks up what it gets from OpenFirmware.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    sailor
    Posts: 441 from 2019/5/9
    From: Central Bohemi...
    Quote:

    Sprocki wrote:
    Congrats on that catch, let us know if it runs stable in the long run. I wonder if it's worth the risk. Mine is still at 1.0GHz. It would hurt if I broke not just a 10 EUR CPU but maybe also the CPU module or even the mainboard.


    It's worth the risk, but only if you have someone experienced who really knows how to replace a BGA CPU. ;-)
    Second issue is VCore voltage, it should be suitable to new CPU. And everything all is easy ;-)
    AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
    AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, Sam460LE, AmigaOneX1000
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  • »10.09.25 - 05:03
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    sailor
    Posts: 441 from 2019/5/9
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    Quote:

    cyfm wrote:
    At least the OS part is easy to answer. MorphOS HAL just picks up what it gets from OpenFirmware.

    Thanks. Probably I should edit nvramrc script. I have no experience with this :-(. On the other way I could set here displayed frequency value to something like 5.5 GHz and make some cool screenshots with AMD-fast G4 ;-)
    AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
    AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, Sam460LE, AmigaOneX1000
    MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Sam460LE, Pegasos II, Powerbook G4, Mac Mini, iMac G5, Powermac G5 Quad
  • »10.09.25 - 05:12
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12452 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > I successfuly exchange 1 GHz CPU on my second Pegasos 2
    > to this one: MC7447B 1667 MHz […]
    > Just now it is overclocked to 1800 MHz and I start testing...

    Congratulations. I don't think anyone managed to run a Pegasos II beyond 1.4 GHz 7447A (#10) before.
  • »10.09.25 - 06:11
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    polluks
    Posts: 837 from 2007/10/23
    From: Gelsenkirchen,...
    Congrats!
    I suppose it's something like this.
    Pegasos II G4: MorphOS 3.9, Zalman M220W · iMac G5 12,1 17", MorphOS 3.18
    Power Mac G3: OSX 10.3 · PowerBook 5,8: OSX 10.5, MorphOS 3.18
  • »10.09.25 - 07:06
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    sailor
    Posts: 441 from 2019/5/9
    From: Central Bohemi...
    I just finished testing and upgrading my Pegasos 1.8 GHz:
    BackdropPegas.jpg
    MorphOS reports L2=256 KB, but in real cache is 512 KB - see ramsmp output.

    AmigaOS reports L2 correctly: AmigaOS-1.8GHz.jpg

    Anyway this super machine received Radeon 9800 PRO and SATA controller.
    It is now my main MorphOS computer until Mirari will came. ( Powermac G5 Quad is too loud )
    AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
    AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, Sam460LE, AmigaOneX1000
    MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Sam460LE, Pegasos II, Powerbook G4, Mac Mini, iMac G5, Powermac G5 Quad
  • »12.10.25 - 16:58
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  • Caterpillar
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    ppc-grinch
    Posts: 26 from 2025/7/17
    This makes me wish that there were a Pegasos III.
    Freescale MPC7448 @ 2.0 Ghz with 200 Mhz bus
    DDR2 RAM? (though the last PowerBook had to run it at a slower 333 Mhz clock)
    I guess because it already has FireWire400, throw in FireWire800 as well.
    If paired with Freescale's MPC8641 processor, you could get a 667 Mhz bus, dual 64-bit memory controllers, PCIe graphics capabilities, and SATA drives. ~17 years ago, this would have been killer.
    Mac Mini G4 1.5 Ghz, ATI Radeon 9200 64MB, 1GB RAM
  • »13.10.25 - 12:46
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12452 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > This makes me wish that there were a Pegasos III.
    > Freescale MPC7448 @ 2.0 Ghz with 200 Mhz bus

    This spec (almost, as 2.0 GHz would have been overclocked) was termed "Pegasos 2.5" back then by Genesi :-) It was (to be) essentially a Freescale HPC II ("Taiga") with Genesi OpenFirmware.
    Btw, as Genesi was listing its High Density Blade (HDB) with up to dual-MPC7448 and Tsi109 as an available product at least from early 2006 to early 2007 (and as a discontinued product since then), has anybody ever seen this board (photo or own eyes)?

    > paired with Freescale's MPC8641 processor

    This was announced as the Pegasos 8641D by Genesi :-)
    Unfortunately, this didn't come to fruition, and neither the Efika 8610 nor the OSW/TetraPower (while the latter became the PowerStations's Bimini board, so in a way the TerraSoft/Fixstars PowerStation with PPC970MP and CPC945 is the closest to a Pegasos III that came to be).


    Edit: Changed some links for more information

    [ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 14.10.2025 - 10:28 ]
  • »13.10.25 - 16:06
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    sailor
    Posts: 441 from 2019/5/9
    From: Central Bohemi...
    Yes, it could be nice machines.
    Pegasos 8641D: 02-Pegasos-8641D.jpg
    Pegasos III alias TetraPower: 03-Pegasos-III-Tetra970MP.jpg

    In any case, I have one "new" 7448 CPU, for Powerbook G4 of for other Pegasos 2 ;-)
    Unfortunately, there is no computer with 200 MHz bus.
    AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
    AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, Sam460LE, AmigaOneX1000
    MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Sam460LE, Pegasos II, Powerbook G4, Mac Mini, iMac G5, Powermac G5 Quad
  • »13.10.25 - 16:36
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 441 from 2019/5/9
    From: Central Bohemi...
    Here is part one of my article about Pegasos 2-HP 1.8 GHz. CPU swap, memory and other upgrade.
    Again, at first in Czech language, need google translate.

    There will be second part with benchmarks against Pegasos 1.33 GHz and Mac Mini 1.8 GHz. English version will be published on intuitionbase.com when I will have time to translate. It means more later than sooner ;-)
    AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
    AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, Sam460LE, AmigaOneX1000
    MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Sam460LE, Pegasos II, Powerbook G4, Mac Mini, iMac G5, Powermac G5 Quad
  • »11.12.25 - 05:17
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    sailor
    Posts: 441 from 2019/5/9
    From: Central Bohemi...
    @Andreas_Wolf

    >MC7447AHX1700PC
    >MC7447BVS1700WG
    >MC7447BVS1700ZG

    these are values from Freescale Qualification report. You can use this document to check electrical and thermal values, but it said nothing about serial production.

    I never see full product Hardware specification sheet and never see this processors inside real computers or on market.

    If you have this, please post here the source. Otherwise this information has very limited practical use.
    AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
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  • »12.12.25 - 09:48
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