Fastest MorphOS Mac
  • Cocoon
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    Posts: 57 from 2010/1/18
    Just purchased a PowerMac MDD single 1GHz system and wondered what the fastest I can make it. Is there some 1.8ghz upgrade for the MDD Macs?

    How easy of an upgrade is it?

    Tom
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12403 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Just purchased a PowerMac MDD single 1GHz system and wondered what
    > the fastest I can make it. Is there some 1.8ghz upgrade for the MDD Macs?

    Yes, for the MDD Macs there is one CPU card model at 1.8 GHz (also available at 1.6 GHz) from one manufacturer. For more info see:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6910&forum=11&start=4
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7135&forum=11&start=60
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7332&forum=11&start=81
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7332&forum=11&start=88
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7638&forum=3&start=18

    > How easy of an upgrade is it?

    Judging from what others who installed such upgrade wrote it seems to be very easy, if you can find such a card in the first place that is.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    redrumloa
    Posts: 1424 from 2003/4/13
    CPU upgrade cards for MDD Power Mac seem to be very, very rare.

    CPU upgrade cards are quite common in AGP Power Mac (Digital Audio, Quicksilver etc)

    The fastest would probably be a MDD with 1.8Ghz upgrade card, but good luck finding one. I've been actively looking for months and finally gave up.
  • »26.11.11 - 00:17
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  • Cocoon
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    Posts: 57 from 2010/1/18
    How about the dual 1.4ghz upgrade? How easy and available are they? Tj
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2795 from 2006/3/21
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    I just recently upgraded my dual 1.25GHz G4 to dual 1.42GHz G4's in my MDD PowerMac and it was very simple.

    If you are only going to run MorphOS and no other OSes on your G4 PowerMac, I would suggest that you get a single 1.25GHz G4 stock Apple CPU board for your MDD and leave it stock, or over-clock it to 1.4Ghz, or possibly 1.5GHz. With just one G4 CPU, it will be easier to keep it cool.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
    Posts: 809 from 2008/7/6
    From: Antwerp, Belgium
    a 1.25ghz overclock to 1.42ghz would be indeed the cheapest solution for running MorphOS fast with an MDD.
    Proud member of the Belgian Amiga Club since 2003

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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    XDelusion
    Posts: 602 from 2010/10/27
    Is there a guide on how to do that anywhere?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Jambalah
    Posts: 820 from 2008/3/30
    From: Roma, Italy
    @Macsociety:
    Afaik, your MDD (it's a FW 800 single 1ghz cpu, is it?) can be overclocked via openfirmware:
    http://aquamac.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=talk&action=display&thread=145
    More instructions here:
    http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-12615.html
    Though, it's possible to overclock the 133 mhz frontside bus via solder&jumpers and then doing the same on the daughter card (but I've found no scheme or whatelse for overclocking cpu, though I think are the same for the single 1.25 cpu).
    Overclocking the single 1.25 cpu is quite easy but can create problems. I did it with the 1.5 overclock and after a first succesfully boot in OS X and a failure trying to boot MorphOS I managed only kernel panics trying to boot again...
    Btw, here you are the overclocking instructions for a single 1.25 cpu:
    http://www.mactalk.com.au/10/49293-overclocking-powermac-mdd.html
    Read with care, as L3 cache could suffer from this overclock (maybe the cause of kernel panics?!?) as explained in the thread.
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    Thanks Jambalah,
    I'm thinking of purchasing an 867MHz MDD and installing an Xserve 1.33 GHz processor card.
    Without those instructions, the Xserve processor card would only run at 1GHz.

    Very useful information.
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  • »26.11.11 - 14:59
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 687 from 2004/11/3
    From: near myself
    @Jambalah

    Thanks for the overclocking links. I've done some FSB overclocking at my spare Quicksilver, and although it runs stable, I can't see any difference regarding speed.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    CountRaven
    Posts: 566 from 2007/12/10
    From: Greece
    Interesting topic.

    But I have some questions:

    1. Does a dual CPU machine affects the performance of MorphOS, I think only one CPU is used. Can this be confirmed?

    2. So I guess a G4 machine with the 1.8 Ghz card upgrade is the fastest solution so far?

    Quote:

    I just recently upgraded my dual 1.25GHz G4 to dual 1.42GHz G4's in my MDD PowerMac and it was very simple.


    Was this done via OpenFirmware? IS the method described to the links above -for a dual machine-, I will take a look but can you give some more info anyway?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2795 from 2006/3/21
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    1. MorphOS only uses one CPU.

    2. The upgrade I did was to replace the dual 1.25GHz G4 CPU daughter card with a stock Apple dual 1.42GHz G4 CPU daughter card. Unplug one and replace with the other (as the bus speed for the dual 1.25GHz and dual 1.42GHz G4's are the same).
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12403 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > I guess a G4 machine with the 1.8 Ghz card upgrade is the fastest solution so far?

    Looking at CPU speed alone there're also 2.0 GHz upgrades for pre-MDD machines.
  • »27.11.11 - 12:53
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