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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    trotter
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/14
    From: UK
    Hello,

    I have bought a mac mini off ebay for ?150 64meg VRAM edition :)

    Now while trying the morphos bootcd I got stuck with a freeze and after fiddling around quiting applications I though hmm is this the 30min limit.

    So is there no visual indication in v2.4 that the time has expire?

    I thought Morphos slowed down but OWB seemed to freeze. So does it freeze or slow down?

    It would be a good idea to have a visual countdown for the last minute so users are not put off morphos. Even a requestor popping up would be better than nothing.

    Yes i will buy a key soon just thinking of other newbies.

    Martin N
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  • MorphOS Developer
    itix
    Posts: 1520 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    MorphOS pop ups a requester before 30 min timeout. MorphOS should not freeze so it sounds like a hardware problem. Could be just faulty RAM.
    1 + 1 = 3 with very large values of 1
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    xyphoid
    Posts: 870 from 2008/7/11
    From: Delaware, USA
    in my experiene it will do just that. possibly due to the processor, but it will function beyond the time out for a bit but then lock up. you should get the pop up though without a keyfile installed
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    trotter
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/14
    From: UK
    I have done the apple hardware tests and all is okay which includes memory.

    The whole hardware tests take 30mins though so its not the most thorough.

    thanks

    Martin N
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    trotter
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/14
    From: UK
    Quote:


    xyphoid wrote:
    in my experiene it will do just that. possibly due to the processor, but it will function beyond the time out for a bit but then lock up. you should get the pop up though without a keyfile installed


    To clarify you get what I do then ie locks up on slow down?
    No popup happened.

    I should mention that this is of the bootcd I have not installed it to hard drive yet.

    Martin N
    Running MorphOS v3.18 on Mac mini 1.5GHz 64meg VRAM,1gig ram.
    Palm T3 pda along with pixel 4a GrapheneOS smartphone. Updated August 2023
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    kickstart
    Posts: 227 from 2009/4/28
    From: Land of Santa
    Im in a closer situation sometimes, im thinkin about some slowdown due too the 4200rpm hd, how i wrote on other thread.

    How can i test a good hardware test on a mac mini?

    [ Edited by kickstart on 2010/2/12 0:54 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    osco
    Posts: 680 from 2009/10/20
    From: Boston, USA
    System stable and registered...Welcome
    Mac Mini 1.5GHz, 1G, 250G Drive, Apple Cinema Display, MorphOS 3.1 registered, MacOS 10 PowerBook (5,8) 1.67Hz, 2G, 80G Drive,........Waiting
    PowerBook (5,8) 1.67Hz, 2G, 40G MorphOS 3.1 unregisterd
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    kickstart
    Posts: 227 from 2009/4/28
    From: Land of Santa
    Thanks for the info.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    xyphoid
    Posts: 870 from 2008/7/11
    From: Delaware, USA
    I'm regestered now, but I noticed that (similar) issue when I also tested the os using the cd. I would surf and d/l alot or use mplayer to view a video
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    boot_wb
    Posts: 874 from 2007/4/9
    From: Kingston upon ...
    Could be a faulty optical drive or media. Since there is only one ATA bus on the mini (shared by the hard drive and optical drive), a "bad" disc can cause the system to lock up - although the mouse pointer will still move.

    On OSX this is characterised by the god-damn spinning colour wheel and total system unresponsiveness.
    On MorphOS, windows may freeze and icons on the desktop may become inert.

    Since the ATA bus is shared, and essentially waiting for the optical drive to respond whilst it tries (and tries, and tries) to read the crappy disc, there is no access to the hard disc.

    May be improved if you have MorphOS on an external drive or thumbdrive though, as this way the bus via which MorphOS is accessed is not shared with the optical drive. However I've not tried this so can't say one way or the other.

    The only way I've found to recover from this is to reset, get to the openfirmware prompt, and type "eject cd".

    [ Edited by boot_wb on 2010/2/12 18:49 ]
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12403 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > The only way I've found to recover from this is to reset, get to the openfirmware prompt,
    > and type "eject cd".

    Reboot with left mouse button pressed should eject medium from optical drive as well.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    trotter
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/14
    From: UK
    Quote:


    boot_wb wrote:
    Could be a faulty optical drive or media. Since there is only one ATA bus on the mini (shared by the hard drive and optical drive), a "bad" disc can cause the system to lock up - although the mouse pointer will still move.

    On OSX this is characterised by the god-damn spinning colour wheel and total system unresponsiveness.
    On MorphOS, windows may freeze and icons on the desktop may become inert.

    Since the ATA bus is shared, and essentially waiting for the optical drive to respond whilst it tries (and tries, and tries) to read the crappy disc, there is no access to the hard disc.

    May be improved if you have MorphOS on an external drive or thumbdrive though, as this way the bus via which MorphOS is accessed is not shared with the optical drive. However I've not tried this so can't say one way or the other.

    The only way I've found to recover from this is to reset, get to the openfirmware prompt, and type "eject cd".

    [ Edited by boot_wb on 2010/2/12 18:49 ]


    I have done the extended hardware test on apples install cd and it passed fine/

    I have thought that getting an external cdrom drive might be a good idea to reduce the wear n tear on the internal one.
    Is there anything i should look out for or avoid?

    I do remember there were some non-standard usb flash drives at one time. I remember looking for flash drives that supported linux kernel 2.6 to make sure they were standard such as PNY drives.

    Martin N
    Running MorphOS v3.18 on Mac mini 1.5GHz 64meg VRAM,1gig ram.
    Palm T3 pda along with pixel 4a GrapheneOS smartphone. Updated August 2023
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    boot_wb
    Posts: 874 from 2007/4/9
    From: Kingston upon ...
    Quote:


    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > The only way I've found to recover from this is to reset, get to the openfirmware prompt,
    > and type "eject cd".

    Reboot with left mouse button pressed should eject medium from optical drive as well.


    Sweet. Thanks for that, whenever I go to the OF prompt I invariably end up rebooting into OSX by accident.
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