Help please! Can i buy this emac?
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
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    Obviously, you didn't follow my link ;-)


    I did, but.. The orginal post said:

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    Divinity wrote:

    a guy has a EMac with 9600 and no way to bootstrap at the moment (if you need I give you his contact)


    Now I don't actually know what the term 'bootstrap' means in the terms of the post, but I'm guessing it has to do with a lack of drivers for the 9600 Graphics chip set. It was also written 2010/7/27, which was before the release of 2.6

    http://www.morphos-team.net/releasenotes-2.6.html

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    Devs/Monitors/Radeon

    Added Radeon9600XT/Pro and Radeon 9700Pro support to Radeon driver (2D only)




    So

     :-?

    I don't have access to a 1.42 eMac, but maybe it works?
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > maybe I'm understanding wrong

    No, you got it right :-)

    > the thread is long

    That's why I always link to the exact message I'm referring to by using fragment identifiers. Doesn't that work for you?
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    Anyway..

    Short answer, maurensen Could you please burn a copy of MorphOS 2.6 and try it, before buying it?

    And then tell us if it worked or not?

    Thanks!
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    > I don't actually know what the term 'bootstrap' means in the
    > terms of the post

    I think it just means "boot".

    > I'm guessing it has to do with a lack of drivers for the
    > 9600 Graphics chip set. It was also written 2010/7/27, which
    > was before the release of 2.6

    That's a very good point indeed which I didn't think of. Trying to run 2.6 instead of 2.5 could make a difference.
  • »07.11.10 - 06:33
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    maurensen
    Posts: 358 from 2003/10/3
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    stephen_robinson wrote:
    Anyway..

    Short answer, maurensen Could you please burn a copy of MorphOS 2.6 and try it, before buying it?

    And then tell us if it worked or not?

    Thanks!

    I've contacted the seller but sadly he don't wont to let me to mess with cd and boot parameters so unfortunately I don't have the possbility to try this before buying the Mac.
    No problem, I'll search for another machine.
    Anyway, thanx to all for your answers!
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    Obviously, you didn't follow my link ;-)


    Obviously your link did not answer my question. Your arrogance really pisses me off sometimes.

    Does it make you feel so superior to post links that you think have all the answers, instead of just simply answering a question with an answer, or an answer backed up with a link to support your answer?
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    > Obviously your link did not answer my question.

    What question? I didn't quote any question of yours, thus I didn't intend to answer any question of yours. Please have a look again at what I specifically responded to with my link (hint: it's in the quote):

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7519&forum=11&post_id=78656#78656

    There you say that you "find it hard to believe that nobody has yet tried to install MorphOS2.5, or 2.6 on such an eMac". My link in my response to maurensen's opening message proves that someone claimes that it was already tried to no avail to install MorphOS 2.5 on a 1.42 GHz eMac. From that I concluded you hadn't followed that link, else your statement wouldn't have made any sense.

    > Your arrogance really pisses me off sometimes.

    You're mistaking your own ignorance for my alleged arrogance.

    > Does it make you feel so superior to post links that
    > you think have all the answers

    All the answers? I'm afraid you're hallucinating. My links are only intended as answers to the questions or statements I put them as a reply to, nothing else. That concept is called context. I didn't quote any question of yours (whatever question you're on about) so my response did *not* refer to that question, but to anything else I quoted.

    > instead of just simply answering a question with an answer

    No, I won't unnecessarily repeat what's already written, often ad nauseam. Hyperlinks are the main principle of the WWW concept, and I'll use them.

    > or an answer backed up with a link to support your answer?

    In cases where an own answer won't provide any more content compared to just clicking the link I won't add anything to that link.
  • »07.11.10 - 17:39
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Your arrogance really pisses me off sometimes.

    You're mistaking your own ignorance for my alleged arrogance.


    A perfect example of you continuing arrogant attitude. I am not mistaken. Anyone who so freely and frequently belittles the intelligence level of others, most of whom he has never met, IMO is terribly arrogant! Your reply does not surprise me, it was very predictable.

    I could go through almost any of your postings on this forum over the last several months and collect dozens of examples of your arrogant, elite, superior, I'm smarter than you, attitude, but I won't waste my time, or respond to anything else you wrote that was included with your insult above. Your responses past and present clearly show that you are more interested in being right about some minute detail and pointing out another members oversight, or mistake, than actually helping improve the MorphOS community.

    Don't expect any further responses from me to anything you write, so feel free to add any other insults you can think up with your superior intellect.
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    magnetic
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    Andreas

    To piss off a nice guy like amigadave is quite a feat! You should consider your wording at times..

    Amigadave

    Well andreas I think has the honor of fastest person to paladin of the pegasos in recent memory!

    Also he is outrageously fast to give accurate links to threads on mz which is quite insanse and amazing at the same time!

    So... lets get along guys this aint ANN! (Though i'm liking some debate)
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    > To piss off a nice guy like amigadave is quite a feat!

    I don't know why he feels that way. And he said he did *before* I called him ignorant, so that can't be the reason, can it?

    > You should consider your wording at times..

    *My* wording? He started by calling me arrogant just because I pointed out that he missed a link I gave (which he obviously did).
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    > A perfect example of you continuing arrogant attitude.

    ...and of your ignorance as well.

    > I am not mistaken.

    Me neither.

    > Anyone who so freely and frequently belittles the intelligence
    > level of others

    Huh? Where in the world have I done so? Care to point it out to me? I called you ignorant *after* you called me arrogant. And btw, ignorance has little to do with intelligence level (just in case you fell for that misconception).

    > IMO is terribly arrogant!

    ...as ignorant as someone is who calls others arrogant just because they point out the fact that he missed an information.

    > Your reply does not surprise me, it was very predictable.

    So was yours.

    > I could go through almost any of your postings on this forum over
    > the last several months and collect dozens of examples of your
    > arrogant, elite, superior, I'm smarter than you, attitude

    I don't think so. But I see that with the right amount of ignorance one could perceive my postings as such, especially those postings of mine that you just criticized for consisting of a mere link to the answer.

    > but I won't waste my time

    Thought so.

    > or respond to anything else you wrote that was
    > included with your insult above.

    You mean my "insult" that I replied with to your "insult"?

    > you are more interested in being right about some minute detail
    > and pointing out another members oversight, or mistake, than
    > actually helping improve the MorphOS community.

    And you think that repeatedly ignoring answers already given and calling others that repeatedly point to those answers arrogant helps improve the MorphOS community?

    > Don't expect any further responses from me to anything you write

    Let's see. You wouldn't be the first one announcing no further responses only to throw over that promise right away.

    > so feel free to add any other insults you can think up

    If you stop calling me arrogant I'll stop calling you ignorant. I think that's the way to go and leave those "insults" behind.
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    WHOS ON FIRST?

    stfu!
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    > stfu!

    I won't. Maybe you want to follow your own advice?
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    Andreas

    Who's on First?
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    > Who's on First?

    Being no native English speaker I'm puzzled.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who%27s_on_First%3F

    You refer to that?
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    yep
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    > yep

    So you want to imply that the issue between amigadave and me is based on mutual misunderstanding and that we just talked past each other?
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    maurensen
    Posts: 358 from 2003/10/3
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    I'm sorry that my thread has turned so angry, that wasn't my intention! ;-(
    AmigaDave and Andreas are two of the most expert amigans here at morphzone and I appreciate equally their fast and kind answers to my questions so please, peace gentlemen, really! :-)
    Peace.
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    maurensen
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    To make a long story short...
    In the end I've bought a PowerMac G4 1.25 with 2GB ram hd 80gb at a nice price but now I'm going to move house so now I don't have time to try MorphOS.
    I'm posting this only to let you know that I made the same mistake again: I definitevaly am not able to stay away from Amiga! :-)
    Hoping to settle my new apartment in mid december I'm looking forward to install and register MorphOS as soon as I can.
    Hola my friends!
    :-)
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    The PowerMac is probably teh smartest choice these days. I am sure you will not regret that purchase a single day. Give your new Butterfly Mac a nice place in the new appartment.
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    amigadave
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    @maurensen,

    Good choice if you got it for a good price. There are many of that model available near where I am and I was lucky to get mine for a very good price.

    Prices for all PPC Mac models continue to drop fast and within a year or two there will probably be more PPC Macs being thrown out in the trash than there will be offered for sale (if that is not already happening in some places).

    For those that don't have a G4 Mac that is currently supported by MorphOS2.6, I suggest that you put an ad in a local newpaper, or an advertising brochure that is free to pick up at the convenience store or news stand, asking for donations of old computers for recycling. You will probably get lucky and be offered one for free sooner or later.

    I laugh at the eBay auctions that still think a G4 PowerMac is worth hundreds of dollars and laugh even harder at the sellers that think their G5 PowerMacs are still worth thousands of dollars.
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    maurensen
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    I think the price I've paid for the mac is good enough (150euros) for this machine (MDD 1.25 2gb ram 80gbhd dvd mouse & keyboard)...
    At least is very very good compared to a SAM
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    Update:

    >> I'm guessing it has to do with a lack of drivers for the
    >> 9600 Graphics chip set. It was also written 2010/7/27, which
    >> was before the release of 2.6

    > That's a very good point indeed which I didn't think of.
    > Trying to run 2.6 instead of 2.5 could make a difference.

    Don't know about 2.6, but 2.7 seems to run:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7704&forum=11&post_id=81734#81734
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