Battery Information:

Charge Information:
Charge remaining (mAh): 673
Charging: Yes
Full charge capacity (mAh): 4603
Health Information:
Cycle count: 19
Condition: Good
Battery Installed: Yes
Amperage (mA): 10
Voltage (mV): 11037

System Power Settings:

AC Power:
System Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0
Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10
Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0
Automatic Restart On Power Loss: No
Wake On AC Change: No
Wake On Clamshell Open: Yes
Wake On LAN: Yes
Wake On Modem Ring: Yes
Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes
Battery Power:
System Sleep Timer (Minutes): 22
Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10
Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 22
Automatic Restart On Power Loss: No
Wake On AC Change: No
Wake On Clamshell Open: Yes
Wake On Modem Ring: No
Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes
Reduce Brightness: Yes

Hardware Configuration:

Clamshell Closed: No
UPS Installed: No

AC Charger Information:

AC Charger (Watts): 65
Connected: Yes
Charging: Yes
SLOW CHARGING? WHY? IS IT THE BATTERY, HARDWARE, OR CHARGER?
AMPPERAGE?
VOLTAGE?
heading to google

The battery charges at a rate of 10mAh an hour! // 460 hrs to charge battery? hmmmm?

[ Edited by osco 19.10.2011 - 08:13 ]

Maybe your PMU needs a reset:

Remove battery
Remove PSU
Press power-button for > 5 secs.

Reset PMU.....no effect What would happen if deleted?
if edited? what is the "HIBERNATE MODE"

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>ActivePowerProfiles</key>
<dict>
<key>AC Power</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>Battery Power</key>
<integer>-1</integer>
</dict>
<key>Custom Profile</key>
<dict>
<key>AC Power</key>
<dict>
<key>Automatic Restart On Power Loss</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Disk Sleep Timer</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Display Sleep Timer</key>
<integer>25</integer>
<key>Display Sleep Uses Dim</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Hibernate File</key>
<string>/var/vm/sleepimage</string>
<key>Hibernate Mode</key>
<integer>3</integer>
<key>Mobile Motion Module</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>System Sleep Timer</key>
<integer>25</integer>
<key>TTYSPreventSleep</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>Wake On AC Change</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Wake On Clamshell Open</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>Wake On LAN</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Wake On Modem Ring</key>
<integer>0</integer>
</dict>
<key>Battery Power</key>
<dict>
<key>Automatic Restart On Power Loss</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Disk Sleep Timer</key>
<integer>10</integer>
<key>Display Sleep Timer</key>
<integer>22</integer>
<key>Display Sleep Uses Dim</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>Hibernate File</key>
<string>/var/vm/sleepimage</string>
<key>Hibernate Mode</key>
<integer>3</integer>
<key>Mobile Motion Module</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>ReduceBrightness</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>System Sleep Timer</key>
<integer>22</integer>
<key>TTYSPreventSleep</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>Wake On AC Change</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Wake On Clamshell Open</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>Wake On Modem Ring</key>
<integer>0</integer>
</dict>
</dict>
</dict>
</plist>
Someone posted by removing (it) made the charger work?

[ Edited by osco 20.10.2011 - 07:59 ]

Are you sure you have PowerBook, not iBook charger?

PowerBook charger has bigger wattage due to bigger power consumption. With iBook charger, there won't be much extra to charge the battery with...

-EDIT-
I think 65 watts should be for PowerBook...

[ Edited by Jupp3 20.10.2011 - 15:22 ]

Have two A1021 chargers 65 watt. Both operate the "5,8" and both only charge at a rate
of 10 mAh...that,s slow?
There is a page on the net that is very comprehensive and shows what the powerbook consumes.
http://www.girr.org/mac_stuff/pb15_battery_life.html
1. Chargers will check their outputs tonight with a multimeter
2. Battery Plan to pick a new open box battery tonight
3. Software Reset PMU, PRAM, firmware
4. Open up the laptop and check the connections and see if any damage.
5. DC sound board?
6. Main Logi Board..

anything I missed..okay prayer

[ Edited by osco 20.10.2011 - 15:04 ]

Batteries are an issue! Laptop is circa 2005 means batteries are 7 plus years old. if you get a used 5,8 be advised that a new battery is expensive and EBAY and the like will not be an avenue to take. Just bought a new battery that was DEAD. manufactured 2003?
Cells die at 20% per year means battery 160% dead...

Apple has stopped stocking as of Aug/Sept 2011...
All aftermarket now.
What to do?
Buy "new cells" and install ..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKyhNkQzE5E
Its for an Ibook but same principle
Find a service that will do it?
Getting to be a hastle

Jupp3

What is your amperage on your mac with the charger on and running?

15" PowerBook Battery Life Tests
Outstanding report!!!
2nd read
will do a third slowly




© 2003-2010 George Schreyer
Created 26 Sept 2003
Last Updated June 20, 2010

Taking a look at the newer technology site:
http://www.newertech.com/products/pbg4_batt_al15.php
http://www.newertech.com/downloads/nwtmanpbbat.pdf
http://www.newertech.com/downloads/Manuals/batts/newertechbatterysheet.pdf
http://www.newertech.com/tech_support/newerbatteryconditioning.php
http://www.newertech.com/tech_support/newertech_batt_instructions.php

next some sales sites for pricing?

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/BAP15AL52RS/

$99.00

http://www.mac-pro.com/s.nl/it.A/id.3211/.f

$89.00

Apple sales came up with
http://www.nextdaypower.com/Apple-PowerBook-G4-15-inch-M9756G-A-Rechargeable-Battery.htm

$39.00


[ Edited by osco 22.10.2011 - 07:24 ]

I now have five batteries


and a new external charger it it came in late yesterday
The charger is now REALLY CHARGING THE BATTERY.
The Powerbook charges at 10amps the external rated at 3500amps.
It has been weeks of charging by the Powerbook to get it at 70%.
It appears that the batteries were not the problem but the charging circuit in the Powerbook.

How to narrow it down?

Which charger did you use? any link?
Did the old battery is now working? How long did it stand?

I read (french) that on new macbook pro there's problem like that and they said that by unplugging the battery cable inside the Mac for a few seconds could resolve the problem.

Kamel

AL-3186 $32.61 1 Compatible External Charger for APPLE MacBook A1185, A1175, A1189, iBook A1061, M8433, PowerBook A1022, A1057, A1078, M6359, M7385, M8983, M8984, M9677
Ships from U.S warehouse.

www.brilliantstore.com
I may get another :)

I plan to run some consumption tests on the batteries as well as the time to charge an empty battery.
It means; now I have a truly portable Morph laptop

[ Edited by osco 04.11.2011 - 06:02 ]

@osco,

What did you do to fix your charging problem, since you said that it was not the battery, or the charger that was the problem? Did you replace the DC power board inside the PowerBook?

If you want to sell one of the good batteries that you have (since you have 5 of them now), let me know, as I could use a spare for those times when I am traveling and it is inconvenient or impossible to plug in the A/C charger to charge the battery and/or run the PowerBook from the charger.

I am now calibrating 4 batteries 3 with cycle counts of zero and one with nineteen

I haven't yet solved why the 5,8 is only allowing 9 amps to the battery?

But the four good batteries will allow the freedom to be away from an A/C outlet.

Waiting for 3.0

Osco, have you tried examining the performance of one of the new batteries under the same charging utility?

Also, did you notice if the bad battery charged more quickly if the powerbook was switched off during charging?

Regards



Rich

It is an EXTERNAL charger. There are no utilities. This charger and a battery A1078 are by themselves. The laptop does no charging. The PowerBook may need a new D/C sound board or even the logic board. The external charger works well and all batteries
are fully charged.

Hi Osco,

I meant, have you tried the same utility which you posted in post #1 with one of the new batteries charging through the Powerbook (rather than the through the external charger).

Reason being that there may be nothing wrong with the charging circuitry of the Powerbook, the low charging current (10mA) could simply be due to the high internal resistance of the failing battery (from I=V/R) at lower capacities.

Would be interesting to know either way, I suspect for a new(er) battery you may get around 1600mA charging current (since Powerbook seems to operate around 45W) when the battery is drained.

btw - here's an article on calibrating the charge-state logic of the battery which may also be useful (at least in giving accurate 'power remaining' estimates) :o)

[ Edited by boot_wb 06.11.2011 - 09:19 ]

Of the five batteries ONE is bad and it resists charging by the external charger and will be disposed of but not before an autopsy. The net has yet to give answer to the low amperage heading to the battery. I hope its a software fix, then wiring, then DC board and finally the LOGIC board. last battery soon to be calibrated.

My thoughts are the Powerbook is for on reason or another is only allowing a TRICKLE charge of 9 mAh.

laters

@osco

What am I missing the list "PowerBook A1022, A1057, A1078, M6359, M7385, M8983, M8984, M9677" do not contains the latest PowerBook that Morphos 3.0 will support right?

Kamel

The model numbers are BATTERIES ie an A1078 is one of Apple's batteries...

One of the steps in the quest to get the PowerBook 5,8 ready for Morph3.0:

POWER ON THE ROAD

The Powerbook charging set up has had issues and many corrected by the Mac Pro.

1. The Chargers capacity, 40/65 Watts, barrel connector wiring, barrel connector, internals of the charger (overheating) and the list goes on
2. Batteries working time in real world 2 hours or so.
3. DC board internally being jostled by someone tripping on the power adapter cord.

That being said, the PowerBook has a HISTORY now and many of the its problems have been addressed and corrected!

My 5,8 still has a trickle charge and I have not yet find the exact cause.
With 4 fully charged batteries, the PowerBook can spend the day away from the PLUG.
External charges work and a night of charging gets the four batteries ready for the next day

One person's solution below :)

http://screaminglight.com/projects/technical/powerbook-g4-power-connector-replacement/

My immediate solution was to bypass the PowerBook's charging altogether!
1.Purchase an external battery charger:
http://www.brilliantstore.com/apple_laptop_battery_chargers_dekcell_al_3186.html
2.Purchase 4 new batteries
http://www.ebay.com/itm/15-Apple-Power-Book-G4-Rechargeable-Li-Ion-Battery/150700215594?ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1&ih=005&category=14295&cmd=ViewItem#ht_500wt_1335

A day to fly and get recharged at night.

That external battery charger can only charge one battery at a time.

What do you do, get up in the middle of the night to switch batteries, so all 4 of your PowerBook batteries are charged for the next day?

My sleep is jagged and if need be, we will opt for another external. Newer Technology has a pricy DUAL charger as well.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Newer-Technology-Battery-Charger-PowerBook-/280774915068?pt=Laptop_Batteries&hash=item415f7d33fc

In the field, use would be from noon till 5pm and with 4 full young batteries there should plenty with reserves as well.
Also will look at another WIFI set-up

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atheros-AR5212-802-11-A-B-G-PCMCIA-Wireless-Card-Kit-/270563832044?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3efedc70ec

Wait for the Ebay page to fully load :)

Atheros AR5212 802.11a/b/g PCMCIA wireless network card

[ Edited by osco 21.11.2011 - 01:00 ]