MDD won't boot
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    pampers
    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
    From: Tczew, Poland
    Hi

    I've installed "new" daughter card to my MDD today and installed watercooling. Everything was working well until I closed the lid. After that there is no signal on the monitor at all. I've checked with another daughtercard which is 100% working but there is still no signal on the monitor.

    I've checked with another cable - no luck. I've reset PROM - no luck. I've disconnected all harddrives and cd - no luck.

    I don't have spare gfx card to check if old one is still ok (but it was ok until I closed that god damn lid).

    Any suggestions?
    MorphOS 3.x
  • »21.07.11 - 18:26
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    pampers

    sorry about your problem. However, when I heard "water cooling" i'm guessing you oc'd it? If not, you still messed with the cooling and maybe the cpu went? why dont u try to go back to the stock cooler? Have you examined the cpu? Just so you know PSU s are known to fail on MDD alot.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    pampers
    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
    From: Tczew, Poland
    Yes, I did try to OC which went successfull until I closed that damn lid. I also have non-oc daughter card with the same effect.
    What about PSU i've just changed fans for a new one so I don't think it's PSU problem as whole machine is working well, hdds are spinning.

    Tommorow I will try to reflash radeon 9250 which I have lying around and see if it's gfx problem. If not I will give up :/
    MorphOS 3.x
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    pampers

    Looks like u did lot of modding to a 10 year old + computer and that leads to troubles.. i think you will get it working though. I have a 1.25 mhz MDD cpu for sale..
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    pampers
    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
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    Magnetic, thing is I did only modification for daughterboard which I also have a spare one, original one which was working fine as well. I suspect there is some problem with gfx card but I will try to find that out 2morrow if I will have some time..
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    Not to be a pessimist, but I can't see how overclocking the processor card would create a problem with the video card.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    pampers
    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
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    Guys, why are u stick with OC thing? I said that i have spare original card and it doesn't work as well. I have 2 faulty cards, when I plug them in even hard drives are not spinning.

    But interesting thing is how come everything was working fine until i closed that lid, i tried to check is there any change that any part was moved, contacted, damaged when I closed lid but no.

    Also radiator on radeon was quite hot.. I have no time to reflash my pc radeon today but I will give a try tommorow.
    MorphOS 3.x
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Motosampy
    Posts: 199 from 2004/8/14
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    I have a spare Nvidia gfx card that came with my MDD, can send it to you if you want.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    pampers

    We stick with the OC thing because its certainly not advisable to OC 10 year old plus hw!
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1931 from 2003/10/19
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    I OC'd my dual MDD with a Sonett CPU card to 2GHZ and its run for over 4 years like that now perfectly. If the GFX chip was hot you may have just killed it and the lid being put on was just a fluke, it may have went just as you did that is all.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    Acill!!!!!

    You still lurking here? :)

    We miss you man.. are you running morphos still?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Posts: 12403 from 2003/5/22
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    > Acill!!!!! You still lurking here? :)

    13 posts in 2011, 4 of which in July alone. For a slow site like MorphZone that's like being a resident ;-)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1931 from 2003/10/19
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    Still here, still running it a bit on a mini and my MDD. I refuse to pay for it at the prices it would be to get it registered, and it makes it hard to setup with the add on package since it times out before it all downloads and installs.

    I am impressed with it though, its come a long way.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    > it makes it hard to setup with the add on package since it
    > times out before it all downloads and installs.

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7910&forum=9&start=7
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Years ago you were gonna donate to morphos efforts now you wont buy 1 key? Yeah, the price is high (and stupid with VAT for americans - wait not stupid ABSURD) however, you will get your money worth and we didnt have to pay for morph for some years if you remember :)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
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    Motosampy,

    Thanks mate but Nvidia won't do for MorphOS unfortunatelly. My kid was in hospital so I had no time to try to reflash my Radeon from PC version to Mac one. I will try meaby this evening and keep you updated.
    MorphOS 3.x
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    pampers
    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
    From: Tczew, Poland
    Update - I've got a spare gfx card but no joy. Seems like I fucked up my mdd.

    EDIT: I've disconnected all hard drives and removed ram. I got a single beep so it looks like mobo is ok, but still no signal with gfx card and I'm 100% sure my daughter card is vaild. What da hell?

    [ Edited by pampers 29.07.2011 - 12:45 ]
    MorphOS 3.x
  • »29.07.11 - 09:04
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 809 from 2008/7/6
    From: Antwerp, Belgium
    A few ideas maybe:

    Isn't there some kind of resetbutton on the motherboard ? try a PCI card instead of AGP ? What happens with MACOSX ? Remove battery ... I don't know.

    I do have an MDD 1,25Ghz single cpu with a broken PSU I have no use for. I suppose I can send you the motherboard if you pay for the shipping ... if that's the problem ofcours.

    [ Edited by Oepabakkes 29.07.2011 - 15:36 ]
    Proud member of the Belgian Amiga Club since 2003

  • »29.07.11 - 11:35
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
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    Oepabakkes

    Firstly - your nickname is god damn difficult ;) I did tried PMU reset but I did that when machine was turned on. After that I've read on some forum that you have to turn off PM before doing that so I'm not sure if I didn't fucked up my mac with that. I have no PCI gfx card but it's on the way.

    Thanks for your honest offer but there is one mobo for sale in Poland for about 25e so I'm awaiting to receive pci gfx card before ordering. I believe shipping from Belgium to Poland would be quite the same and on the other hand I wouldn't get anything for free, every piece has it's own value but thanks againg for being so honest.
    MorphOS 3.x
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    Also is it me, or is the MDD got the worst cooling? A big fan that sounds like a diesel engine sorta blows some air in the direction of copper heatsink from a distance, the heatsink is made of layers so the air thats push in, rises up toward the graphics card, and as there's no extractor fan just stays there?

    I've tried a couple of the rather expensive silntx 120x38 fans, the 14dBA 72 cfm* fan kept it around 59C in MacOSX with both processors and no NAP, and I was getting the odd kernal panic, worked fine with the single processor in MorphOS, so I swapped it for a a 18dBA which is getting low 50sC in MacOSX, no Kernal panics, but it rather noisy, it even louder than the PSU fans, hmmm..
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Motosampy
    Posts: 199 from 2004/8/14
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    My MDD with 2x G4 @ 867 MHz runs under OS X around 55-56C with original fan, the only problem with cooling has been with Radeon 8500 gfx card memory chips, which I solved with an extra fan:

    https://www1.elfa.se/data1/wwwroot/assets/large/697756f.jpg
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