Come on, spill the beans already!

"In the year 2525 if red is still alive......"


(you didn't expect any other answer ?)

Honestly, I'm quite sure we can atleast rule out this year.

If we are asking for information we shall not receive, how about this one?
When will we see R300 3D drivers?
And when will Frank and Bigfoot's attention turn to the R400?

How's the weather Red?

Haven't seen you around here in a long while.

Don't expect to get any info out of the MorphOS Dev. Team before an actual release announcement. We don't even know which release will have support for the G4 PowerBooks. I am hoping that we will get a 2.8 release, with, or without PB support, within the next few weeks, but it could be months instead.

Hope that 2.8 will at last have the PowerBook support.

> Hope that 2.8 will at last have the PowerBook support.

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=7786&start=32

A glimmer of hope?

Kronos,
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No, but that doesn't stop me from asking Every time I check used G5 systems are getting cheaper. I can only imagine how fast MOS will run on one.

amigadave,
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Its been pretty hot down here as always and much less rainfall than average. How is the weather in CA?

I've not been around too much, I gave up my computer hobbies completely some months ago and even sold the 128T. I guess I am like a moth to a flame as I still find myself checking moob and AWN at times. The more I see chatter about the x1000 nonsense, the more itch I get for MOS on a G5.

@Red,

The weather here is great! Summers in Southern Calif. can be brutal, but living at 7,000ft. above Sea Level, above the smog of the Los Angeles area, the temperatures usually range around 70 to 85 degrees F, and the humidity is very low as well. Lots of people putting their boats into the lake now and going fishing. Some of the brave ones are even water skiing, but most will wait until the lake warms up later in July and August. All the snow melting into the lake all Spring makes it pretty cold until then. We did not get much rain and thunderstorms this May, but might get them now in June. We did get a freak snow flurry about 10 days ago, but it melted as it hit the ground, as it was too warm for snow.

I also am looking forward to MorphOS2.x running on the G5 PowerMac's, but don't expect it for a very long time. If it comes sooner, then I will be pleased and surprised, but having any expectations to get it sooner would only be frustrating. I have already bought my Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac to run Final Cut Studio on while I am waiting for the MorphOS port, and although I don't recommend other people to do this because the prices will only continue to fall, I am glad that I did, as I have already taken the liquid cooling apart and repaired the beginnings of a slow leak of coolant on my system. If you wait to purchase a liquid cooled G5 PowerMac until after MorphOS2.x port is completed (if ever), there may not be many functioning G5's left to purchase by then. Both of the liquid cooled G5 PowerMac towers I have purchased had the beginnings of corrosion due to leaks starting around the "O" ring flanges. I cleaned & fixed them both at the same time.

I am willing to sell 2 G5 PowerMacs that I have, if you are interested. One of them is a dual 2.0GHz G5 and the other is a faulty dual 2.5GHz G5 (liquid cooled) PowerMac. The dual 2.5GHz G5 has a motherboard fault that only sees one of the two installed G5 CPU's, but it still runs and might make an okay MorphOS2.x machine some day.

I am wondering ... overhere an Apple computer is mostly owned by people that are deeply in love with it. Art-people, architects, publicity, designers ... I suspect they clean it every week inside and outside and I think G4's and G5's will always be findable in good to excellent condition overhere. There will be always the machine that develops a fault on the motherboard, but still ...

Is the Apple computer more common in the USA and abused as a regular Windows machine or is it the same overthere ?

> Is the Apple computer more common in the USA and abused
> as a regular Windows machine or is it the same overthere ?

I think the Mac's North American market share has alway been way better than that in Europe. And I doubt the share of "art-people, architects, publicity, designers" is significantly larger over there ;-)

>Is the Apple computer more common in the USA and abused as a regular Windows machine...

Abused equipment is very common. That makes used keyboards and mice worthless IMHO.
And water cooled G5s (the 2.5 and 2.7 Ghz models) frequently have coolant leakage problems (or are in immanent danger of leaks).
G4s seem more rugged and have a good service life.

"art-people, architects, publicity, designers" - nice to know that pretentious Apple users are not a North American phenomenon. ;)

I think part of the price disparity is based on the fact that Europeans pay more for their hardware. Perhaps they do care for it better. And with lower availability and higher initial price, the cost of second hand units is further compounded by high shipping rates and import duties.

> That makes used keyboards and mice worthless IMHO.

The used Logitech keyboard/mouse combo that came with my used Mac mini G4 was in excellent condition, but maybe I was just lucky.

> pretentious Apple users

I think we shouldn't confuse Mac users with Apple users. Mac users may be pretentious mostly but I think that doesn't apply to Apple users (which Mac users are a subset of, but also the larger group of iPod/iPhone/iPad users) in general.

> import duties

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7519&forum=11&start=19

>At least in the EU there's no import tax on computers.

What about components or parts?
I've never shipped a entire computer to Europe, but the components I've shipped have all been subject to duties.

> What about components or parts?

It's the same:

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/measures.jsp?Taric=8473302000&Area=US&Lang=en

> the components I've shipped have all been subject to duties.

I've heard such stories as well. It seems to happen but that doesn't make it legitimate. What's legitimate though is of course to add the country's specific VAT, but that's another matter.

All in all, if a European wants to buy a used Mac he can either buy it from within Europe and suffer from "lower availability and higher initial price" OR buy it from overseas and suffer from "high shipping rates" and added VAT. Contrary to your suggestion there's no compound of these factors.

Interesting points Andreas. I may be confusing import duties with VAT charges.
That form of taxation is alien to me as the US doesn't levy a National sales tax (although there are numerous State sales taxes).
And when we ship to another States (within the US) sales taxes are not applied.

Whatever the cause, prices in the US do seem sharply lower then in Europe.

If you import stuff into the UK from outside of the EU not only do you have to pay the VAT you also have to pay a handling charge for them to put the VAT onto the price, Grrrrr...

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Ouch! That is adding insult to injury.

> When will we see R300 3D drivers?

In line with Zylesea's assumption that MorphOS 2.8 will probably add PowerBook G4 support (which according to the MorphOS Team won't come without R300 3D support), some people seem to think that R300 3D drivers will probably come as early as MorphOS 2.8 as well:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=648529

You mean it may come as early as something we have no idea when will be released?

Bonus!

Morphos will be released in just two more weeks!

And a Morphos Team 2 weeks is 14 days.. HORRAYY

> You mean it may come as early as something we have no idea when will be released?

No, that's not what I mean. I just reported what others say they mean.

> Morphos will be released in just two more weeks!

Nice, I always wanted to try MorphOS ;-)