Hello guys, I'm the lucky owner of a Powerbook 1.67, unfortunately not the high res version.
Anyway, is there a place where I can find the status of (at least) 3D support for my machine?

Rgds,

When you find out...let us all know.

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Go to http://www.morphos-team.net/releasenotes/3.1 and replace "3.1" with the latest released version to see what is supported

The lack of a clear roadmap shouldn't be a surprise for me. It's a hobbyist project and it's clearly managed in that way. The only thing that's unusual is to charge prices over 100 euros for a hobbyist product...

Trying to think about strategy here, most probably the money does not make a huge difference. I can't imagine more than a couple copies being sold per month (average) and I can suppose they're not splitting that fortune equally among developers. How much are they? So, if money is really not the key point here, why the heck are MorphOS team always trying to support new/different/sometimes exotic hardware?

IMHO, trying to keep the spirit of the amiga, would be to choose a fixed system (remember, when developers know exactly what to expect, there's nothing preventing them to go, as low level as they want..., just like an Amiga)

i.e. Mac Mini 1.5 with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, at least 1gb of ram, etc... Set the exact detailed model
That machine would be considered AMorph 500 or anything like that.

They should invest all human resources and efforts to make the system run perfectly on that machine. With everything supported. Why add an eMAC for example? Who wants those white elephants?

When MOS is running flawlessly, perfectly on AMorph 500. They might start to consider an AMorph 1200 (maybe the Powerbook 1.67 High-Res)...

Let people with old 1.25 minis or Powerbook 1.5 complain. It will be better to get another machine, than to have an incomplete operating system.


BTW, replace 3.1 with what? There's nothing 3.2(*) there...

> I can't imagine more than a couple copies being sold per month (average)

According to the inofficial MorphOS counter it's about 32 per month, thus about 1 each day.

> I can suppose they're not splitting that fortune equally among developers.

Yes, some of the MorphOS Team members have publicly declared to not receive one single cent, which they're okay with:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=6248&start=60

You can read about how the money is used there:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=6248&start=15
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=6248&start=36
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=6248&start=78

> How much are they?

http://www.morphos-team.net/team

> why the heck are MorphOS team always trying to support new/different/sometimes
> exotic hardware?

- PowerUP Amiga: This is where it all began.
- Pegasos I/II: 1st new hardware to be supported.
- Efika 5200B: Lower performance than Pegasos, but Genesi paid for the port (so yes, money played a role here apparently).
- G4 Macs: Only available used, but very wide-spread, and production of Pegasos II was stopped years before.
- G5 Macs (announced): Only available used, but very wide-spread and even better performance than G4 Macs.
- Sam460ex (announced): Lower performance than most G4 Macs, but new hardware again which some claim is an important factor for them.

If I am mnot totally wrong 3D support for R300 gfx card is part of the next update. Question though is when that update will actually come...

There is an internal roadmap, it is just not open for everyone and its not 100% static.

Delivering a long term release date e.g. 30th of june, this would only cause disapointment, when we cannot deliver by than. Same for "It will be released next monday.". What if there is a serious bug that needs to be fixed before release? Both, long term and short term announcements may result in an unwanted delay. Such situations happened before and will happen again, so just be patient.

It will be there when it is done and get surprised Frequently asking will not make any difference.

Geit

[ Edited by geit 26.05.2013 - 10:39 ]

seemed fitting. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vUBsTJYK28

That dialog was ripped of the first smurf cartoon "The Astro Smurf" :)

Geit

[ Edited by geit 26.05.2013 - 15:44 ]

@Geit

I do not want to know how you knew that.

And, as to the R300 3D driver, we went from three guys not really working on it, to one guy working on it as part of a larger group of projects.

30th of June it is then!

*cough* *cough*

Maybe theres a need to not wait until 3.2 for EVERYTHING, if the G5 version, or the, errr wirless drivers for atheros cards are ready, then release them now, not when the last part of the Jigsaw is finished?

Of course I've no idea what is ready so like, whatever.

No comments on the single platform idea? AMorph 500, AMorph 1200, AMorph 4000???

Now you can simply download MorphOS 3.2 and check the states of whatever yourself :)

Geit

So any chance of an update on 3.3?












I joke, i joke...

Wonderful news. Downloading right now.
Seems like my video cards are now supported.

- "Atheros 5000 chipset based PCMCIA and PCI cards"
So, now, all I need to do is to find a PCMCIA card for the Powerbook?

this one maybe:
adaptador-wireless-108mbps-placa-pcmcia-d-link-dwl-g650_MLB-O-154493163_4831.jpg

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-476106913-adaptador-wireless-108mbps-placa-pcmcia-d-link-dwl-g650-_JM
20 BRL (~10USD)

> So any chance of an update on 3.3?

At most 7 months from now ;-)

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=8115&start=23

3.3 Could be tommorrow, or thereabouts...

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=9232&post_id=101052&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&showonepost=1

> 3.3 Could be tommorrow, or thereabouts...

I doubt they'll waste an entire revision number for this fix alone :-)

Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its finally out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Party time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-476106913-adaptador-wireless-108mbps-placa-pcmcia-d-link-dwl-g650-_JM

Can someone confirm if this board works with PBook?

I want wifi on my PB too

What should I buy? Prefarbly something, somewhere that ship to Sweden

(I got a router, I don't know the technical stuff. I just want wifi).